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sandz

England team without the top 4

This season i have to raise a glass to Villas contribution for English players Agobonlhaor,Barry,Young,Moore,Davis and Carson look brilliant and could possibly be ones for the future. So my question is, who is your England team without Manutd,Arsenal,Chelski and Liverpool the players can be loaned from a top 4 to a lower club e.g. Carson.

---------------------------Carson

Richards------------Upson---------Campbell-------Lescott

Lennon---------Barry---------Bently------------Young

-------------------Agbonlahor----------Ashton.

Apart from Campbell that is a very young team. Richards i wanted in CB but i think Upson has done very well whilst fit. The midfield is pretty obvious i think upfront Ashton might be too early too say he can get into the proper England team but after yesterdays performance i thought he was brilliant. I think Capello should have a long hard look at these players before he looks at the "main" team because there is plenty of talent there.
stevebwfc

-----------------------Robbo---------------------------

Richards-----Campbell-----King (ledley)-----Lescott

---------Barry-----Agbonlahor-----Downing----------
                                 
Bentley------------------------------------------Lennon

----------------------Ashton----------------------------

Robbo is stil lthe best English keeper in my opinion, while King is back ,and a rock in spurs defence, i would put Aggy in centre mid but with alot of room to push forward and downing push out and swap with lennon at any given time. Ashton is still a quality striker with basically no major errors in his game, and is getting better and better as he is getting fitter.
AlexH

------------------James-------------------

--Richards--King--Lescott--Baines--

---Bentley---Jenas---Barry---Young---

-------Agbonlahor-------Ashton---------


The England team lacks pace. Therefore, here there is Agbonlahor and Young with pace and Bentley and Ashton with pure skill. I think King and Richards would be guarenteed a place, Lescott is much better at CB I think and Baines is good at going up and down the wing. Barry and Jenas  between them have good passing, some pace, goals and good defensive abilities.
Norton

Re: England team without the top 4

------------------Carson-------------------

---Richards---S.Taylor---Woodgate---Baines---

---Bentley---Guthrie---Barry---Jenas---

-------Agbonlahor-------Defoe-----------
clevelandspur

Good topic!  I would go

--------------------------James---------------------------

Richards-------Lescott----L.King-----------Shorey

A. Young------Barry------Bentley---------Lennon/Milner

-----------------Defoe-----Agbonlahor---------------
cosmicrichie

-----------------------------James-------------------------------

Richards----------S.Taylor-----------Woodgate--------Baines

Milner---------Bentley--------------------Barry----------Young

----------------------Ashton------------Defoe------------------
funkymonkey

-----------------------------James-------------------------------

Richards----------Upson-----------Woodgate--------Arca (once he gets UK nationality this year)

------------------------------King---------------------------------

Bentley--------------------Barry---------------------------Young

-------------------Ashton------------Defoe---------------------
El Presidente

-----------------------------Carson-------------------------------

Richards----------Upson-----------Woodgate--------Lescott


Wright-Phillips-----------Barry---------Bentley----------Young

------------------------Ashton----------Defoe---------------------
sandz

I don't rate Shorey anymore, he is soo slow i been watching a lot of Reading and hes slown down a lot.
clevelandspur

^ Shorey does always seem to put in a good shift though running and putting in crosses. i do agree he is not in the best of form though.

Winger actually could turn into a bright spot if it isn't already...SWP, Downing, Lennon, Milner all ones for the future and present
cosmicrichie

I don't rate Downing at all, but agree the others are good. Lennon is improving at a very quick rate, whilst we also have Bentley coming up who is a good right winger.
clevelandspur

^ Richie I agree Downing is a funny one. Part of me doesn't want Spurs to get him but then he can be very useful some games as well. 2 seasons ago he was in phenominal form for Boro but he has seemed to digress a bit I think.

Curious as to Lou Cipher's perspective on him

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